Art Extremes

[Ben]

Hi,
 <br>I'm doing a project based on the process and changes involved when "reproducing" things, whether it be hand sketch, 3d model, or verbal description etc...

what I need is extremes. I need examples of the extremes of art in terms of reproduction.  One example would be the difference between the original thoughts of Beethoven and classical elevator musak.  <br>
Got anymore?

Ben

[deborah]

Extremes in art are probably most noted in cosmopolitan galleries where parallels are defined in the diversity of works displayed. For example, the academic painter who stays "true" to his/her art through purist techniques of the masters presents classical landscapes and portraiture, where as the experimentalist defines his/her art in a broad spectrum of medium and expression and staying "true" is a matter of expressing emotion and concepts "du jour"...which means from one day to the next, style form and medium are optional.
In my opinion, galleries which "specialize" in one mode or form of art become somewhat mundane and do not offer the excitement and experience of galleries that have no borders.
It is exciting to see digital video screens next to a realist still life with backdrops of free form and kinetic sculpture.



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[Kim]

Hi Ben,
It occures to me that a lot of Da Vinci's art has been migrated into mass society. For example, every first grader knows whopainted the Mona Lisa, his plans for flying machines are on t-shirts, address books and wrapping paper.

[deborah]

Kim
I think that is an optimistic view on art education. You may think every first grader knows...but that is too idealistic for me to believe.
I thought teaching art history and appreciation for grades k-5 was a valuable tool, in fact about thirty per cent of the class retained some basic knowledge which included some of the artists mentioned and associated with specific works.
Unless Leonardo DaVinci becomes a cartoon character on a daily program, most first graders will not be aware of who he was or what he did.
A few years ago I really thought I was making great strides with my work. I heard some of the children talking about Leonardo, Donatello ...etc. Little did I know they were talking about mutant ninja turtles   So...back to the drawing board, as they say...

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[ignorAmouse]

Ben, in response to your question and to take it literally...

A modern artwork which has mutated way beyond it's original intention is Munch's 'The Scream'.
It has gone from avant-gardist to kitsch in under a Century. You can find it on T-shirts, other people transposed into the shrieking head for comic effect (sometimes smoking dope), inflatables etc... This is one work of art that is easily accessible for the masses. I even believe there is a shop which specialises in this sort of tat in America somewhere and is solely devoted to 'The Scream' merchandise.
Another interesting point about this particular work you may not know. When it was stolen (don't remember when exactly, but it was in quite recent history) visitor numbers to see the work increased. People were going in droves to see the empty patch of wall! When the museum put up a poster from it's own shop to replace the painting temporarily people still came to stare at it. It was only after the work was recovered that visitor numbers began to decrease.
Make of it what you will.

Aside from that there is always Michaelangelo's 'David' - that's a popular one too. I particularly like the fridge magnet that you can dress up in stereotypical American tourist garb, or put him in a pair of y-fronts Other than that I do know that they still carve faithful reproductions in Italy. One sculpture can take upward of a year to complete by a team of skilled craftsmen working by hand and using traditional techniques. Paradoxes.

[Ben]

Thanks all,

1. Kim, good example.

2. Deb, I don't believe Kim really cares if the 1st graders know who Da Vinci's is, she was just pointing out that the Mona Lisa is everywhere.  I doubt you disagree with that. And, just for fun, I asked a bunch of first graders yesterday who painted this (while holding the Lisa) (several knew Da Vinci).

3. Mouse, great! I've been to the Munch Museum and experienced the missing painting first hand. Great example.

4. Art4Net, why not an "general artist's discussions/questions" section.  Call me naive, but sectioning off all the forums based on geography seems uh, dumb.  That Oceania forum is bumpin!

Thanks again,
Ben

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